You don't know how fortunate you guys are in the US.
In Australia, a used 996tt is just a little less than a brand new GTR.
A brand new 997tt is well over twice the price of a GTR.

The GTR is a great car.However, I would never buy a GTR unless I already owned a 996 / 997tt, but if in your position now, I would do exactly what you're suggesting (buy a 996tt) and stick as much cash in the stockmarket as you can .

 

Having driven both and own a TT I think if you want a state of the art supercar buy the GTR. The TT feels old/agricultural in comparison but it's saving grace is that it looks the business. Both cars obviously can be made to go faster, turned in to go karts, what ever, but the GTR right out of the box is the better car from a driving perspective.

 

Come on Dez, let's not overlook the warts of the 996TT either... It's a great car, and I love mine. It isn't the GTr, and no amount of money will make it one. They're two widely different machines that do a lot well.

Mike

 

Mike, you couldn't seriously compare maintenance and trouble free experiences with the GT-R and 996 TT. The TT is without a doubt more durable and reliable. Absolutely much less to maintain.

All I'm saying is that for half the price, the TT is more car for the money. And can certainly be much faster for much less money than you'd need to add to buy a GT-R.

What is there to argue about that? This isn't just about the GT-R, you can include the Z06, 997 TT, 997 GT3, Viper and just about anything else. The 996 TT is the best all around bang for the buck, period. And it doesn't need to be any of those cars, because it is what it is, and is very good at being what it is.

 

While I agree that the TT is not only a better platform with more potential than the GTR and much better bang for the buck, if you want to go for straight cost to performance ratio, the ZO6 is king. That is the best bang for the buck, cheaper easier to get, cheaper to maintain and spare motors are easy to find, unlike ours.

 

I would agree with you, but the one thing that kills it, at least for me, is the LS7. Numerous stock LS7's and even more modded ones have grenaded the motors. IMO, that, plus the TT still being cheaper on average, make the TT a better deal despite the Z06 have less maintenance costs (but more actual maintenance needed).

 

+1 . I couldnt agree more. C6Z06 is a great car, but the reliability of engines and trans with mods arent that good. My friend went through two cars the same engine problems.

If you are planning on modding your car , 996tt is a proven platform with tons of options. GTR...non 6 speed cars dont do it for me.

 

I'll agree with that. Still much cheaper to repair damage on it at the track than a turbo.

 

GTr is a fine car - just don't go track it. I saw a friend lose his tranny at 6k miles just as a DD and going to a few DE days. Warranty repair at $23k just for the gearbox. Had to wait a little bit as there were none N. America at the time. Fluid changes on the tranny were $1k+.

 

I will agree that the trans has been a heated topic among GTR owners, but I know of a customer's GTR with over 10K track miles and at least another 10K just as a DD, and not until recently has he had any slippage of the trans, and that was caused by over 25psi of boost on race fuel.

They are both viable and lethal track cars, imo.

 

Sounds like your suggesting it's OK to have a tranny blow, after 20k miles on an $80k-$90k car?

 

Not at all, I was merely stating how tough the transmission was in a local customer's car. Technically, the trans didn't blow catastrophically , it just started to slip. Failure nonetheless.

 

I agree with Mike, do you think that is good? I don't. I can see that happening to a manual trans with gear grinding during shifts, but these tranny's don't let you grind.

Is this what we can expect from pdk? I hope porsche builds theirs tougher.

Still prefer manual tranny. I think the GTR would have been an even bigger hit with a bullet proof 6 speed manual to match the engines torque, not to mention it would have been at least 100 lbs lighter.

 

I agree, it would have been an interesting car with a 6 speed in it.

 

+1. After owning 5 recent 911 variants in the last 9years(incl GT2 and turbo), it was time for a different experience. I'd agree that the Porsches are more robust and feel that way. I really have not had many problems with them other than the RMS issue on a couple of cars and they've all withstood various mods very well. That being said, the GT-R is a welcome change and a surprising performer-especially for the $ as has been reported by the motoring press. It's ability to go into and out of corners fast as well as get to speed quickly are amazing given it's specs. and I think are the keys to it's relative performance. I would not recommend consecutive lap tracking unless the appropriate mods were in place-it's more a time attack special as opposed to a track oriented ride. As a DD it's very nice and more practical for me than my previous 911's-though it's ride is a bit on the stiff side. I've not had any negative experiences that have been reported-even with the dealer service dept. Don't get me wrong, I'd still take a new GT3RS allocation in a heartbeat(at msrp) but at this point, I'm very pleased with my GT-R to date and glad I made the change.