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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
i did intake piping, injectors, fpr, filters, and fuel filter,4.5" i/c before ever tuning. after chasing ghosts for the better part of 6 months (not the tuners fault but my mechanical errors) the car was finally sorted enough to start getting proper tunes. i have loaded my 5 file just yesterday continuing to turn up the boost as the logs allow then we will start working on advancing the timing a bit.
now my car isnt a daily so there were times when it was a month or more ofter a tune before i got the weather and time to datalog. so since feb of this yr to now 5 files have been loaded and will continue to datalogg and reflash as long as tony thinks theres progress to be made

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Turbos being sent to me with the flash. Now i see why a lot of people use Tony and Rich at EPL money well spent.
 
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Never mind. I answered my own question. Reading comprehension failed me.
 

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Originally Posted by Whereitsat
I'm trying to understand why these over 18g's? AMS lists the billet for $4,000. K24's can be bought and modded for $2,500. Similar performance for $1,500 more. I understand the quicker spool, but is it really worth it?
k24 based billets are stronger then k16 billets period...
there are different wheels for the k16s as I stated before but the real limitation is the turbine hot side of the K16 not the compressor side.. so one can stuff a jet engine on the cold side but it will only choke up due to the hot sides limitation... and thats where the k24 comes in to play...
just like a A28 cant compete against a A30.... its that simple..
but ist alot easier to sell kits with a turbo thats readily available and make it sound great... I get clients calling me... hey, I seen a k16 billet make 600 whp on pump gas.. does yours do that?... " Im oh boy here go again...
on pump gas a A30 from tial barely makes it let alone a k16 midget..
not trying to steal the thread but people wake stop drinking cool aid.. lol
 
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 11:26 AM
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When i build my turbo markski will be the guy i go to so i only have to do it once. I just have to save now lol.
 
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When i build my turbo markski will be the guy i go to so i only have to do it once. I just have to save now lol.
??? Didn't you say in the above post #49 that you just bought your Turbos and flash from EPL ??
 
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Yes! I meant when i completely build the motor which is so costly cant afford that now lol.
 
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WOW i got quote 7 hours for changing out the turbos LOL WTF there bolt ons.
 
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This is the stuff that makes me sick in the 911 world! I will digress before I make a mess out of this thread and move it away from the original poster title.
 
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Are you saying i should pay triple the hours vs paying for 2 hours to change the turbos out?
 
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No one will charge you two hours to swap turbos. Most shops go by book time or their own estimate. I would say you would at least get charged 4-5 hours on that job. Want it done cheaper... Do it yourself.
 
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Top Speed charges 4 hours for changing turbos there a huge company. He said for 7 hours i can pull your whole motor out for you lol. Pretty much he was joking thats insane hours.
 
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Top Speed charges 4 hours for changing turbos there a huge company.
...so sounds like your problem is solved
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Are you saying i should pay triple the hours vs paying for 2 hours to change the turbos out?
No, I am agreeing with you that is crazy to re/re turbos that are litterally hanging right there.

My uncle was quoted $550 labour to do plugs and coils! He has NEVER worked on a 911 before, but he is handy and he did it in 2.5 hours! He said he was actually relexed talking to his nephew as he was doing it and didn't remove bumpers etc.

I agree the Porsche tax effects many of us.
 
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If you break every stud off in the turbo, removing the exhaust, it could take you 7 hours...just saying..not likely, and not defending any mechanic in general, but it could happen...
 


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