996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 09:20 AM
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I have a set of used fvd 3.8 pistons and liners. Fvd has replacement rings for 500$ if flewis doesnt want them ill let them go cheap
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Yeah looking at the damage i think 8 to 10k is way to low. Just a crank your looking at 5k alone. You need a bottom end and tons of parts. Rods are going to cost 2k. Im sure the bottom end will be in the low teens.
Not so, very reputable 6 speed members have offered me good low mileage parts at good prices. A good used crank is $1000. Nothing wrong with a crank with less than 40k on it. Once I get my situation figured out I will make some calls and start collecting parts.
 
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Originally Posted by Npherin
Was your engine light on before hand? Did the light come on during the pass up until it seized? What code?
My theory is that I ran lean in the cylinder the farthest down the injector row. I think this caused some pre ignition and destroyed my rod. You can see that the carbon build up on the blown cyl is washed clean from the heat. I advise upgrading your fuel pump if you do turbos.
 
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Originally Posted by brnrdtns
My theory is that I ran lean in the cylinder the farthest down the injector row. I think this caused some pre ignition and destroyed my rod. You can see that the carbon build up on the blown cyl is washed clean from the heat. I advise upgrading your fuel pump if you do turbos.
How much boost pressure were you running?
 
Old Mar 22, 2016 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeanmarcboilard
How much boost pressure were you running?
My tune is for 1.2 bar but I was in cold weather with around 94 octane gas and it was sitting at 1.3 during the run, which was probably part of my problem.
 
Old Mar 22, 2016 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
I have a set of used fvd 3.8 pistons and liners. Fvd has replacement rings for 500$ if flewis doesnt want them ill let them go cheap
Ok, I will consider my top end options once my bottom end is complete. I will keep this in mind. Thanks for the offer.
 
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Originally Posted by brnrdtns
My tune is for 1.2 bar but I was in cold weather with around 94 octane gas and it was sitting at 1.3 during the run, which was probably part of my problem.
Oh man, hearing that scares the crap out of me.
 
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Wow scary! I have my Sam K16 billets on my workbench table ready to get started. I have delayed because I'm spooked on removal of the turbo oil lines as I tried last year and the line didn't budge without spinning as a whole.
I was going to heat them with a torch and attempt again soon but seeing this scares me!!
 
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Originally Posted by brnrdtns
Got it apart. Crank journal looks to have taken a beating smacking against the broken rod pieces. Not sure if I should repair or replace. The oil pump is not cracked. The connecting shaft between the IMS and the pump took a beating. The oil pump might have sucked up some aluminum shavings and it feels lumpy when I spin it, not smooth and free spinning. Not sure if this is normal. I wonder if it can be rebuilt.
I am having a difficult time with your questioning the condition of the oil pump and whether it should be reused. If I were just re-ringing and re bearing a ford 302, the oil pump would the first thing in the garbage receptacle, especially if it has seen this failure.
 
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Looking at that cylinder you have had an issue for awhile.

18g turbos hit hard down low with torque.

60pound injectors on 18gs probably had a high duty cycle.

A fuel pump would not just lean out one cylinder out of 6. This is the reason i say to people and others have told me dont go above 80% duty cycle. Once a fuel pump goes it goes even im still on a stock fuel pump but with 80pound injectors.

I would not rebuild this engine yourself alot could go wrong as another forum member tried this and blew it up twice here in atlanta. I would get SRM to get your motor done. Just an idea for ya.
 

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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Looking at that cylinder you have had an issue for awhile.

18g turbos hit hard down low with torque.

60pound injectors on 18gs probably had a high duty cycle.

A fuel pump would not just lean out one cylinder out of 6. This is the reason i say to people and others have told me dont go above 80% duty cycle. Once a fuel pump goes it goes even im still on a stock fuel pump but with 80pound injectors.

I would not rebuild this engine yourself alot could go wrong as another forum member tried this and blew it up twice here in atlanta. I would get SRM to get your motor done. Just an idea for ya.
Any ideas about the problem? I thought the head gasket looked good.
 
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Originally Posted by cdk4219
I am having a difficult time with your questioning the condition of the oil pump and whether it should be reused. If I were just re-ringing and re bearing a ford 302, the oil pump would the first thing in the garbage receptacle, especially if it has seen this failure.
It costs $1500 new and is a reliable design.
 
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I still vote for a more thorough look at the HG/head/studs...that cylinder looks just like a coolant drinker...and based on the severity of damage I further think hydro lock...


Originally Posted by 993GT
yikes!
kind of looks like a failed HG/hydro-lock scenario...water does an amazing job cleaning the combustion chamber...
Originally Posted by brnrdtns
Any ideas about the problem? I thought the head gasket looked good.
 
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You know that could be an idea as mentioned above. Im wondering if you had the head lift from to much boost or pressure? It does look like it was washed down its shinny clean. Have you ever ran higher then 1.3bar?

Does anyone else think he lifted the head and coolant locked the motor?
 
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It did spike to 1.4 for a second. Lifted head?
 


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