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Originally Posted by KPG
For a guy that doesnt put much stock in dyno sheets...you sure do have alot of them
....you are starting to sound like me, and we cant have that happen! Kevin
....you are starting to sound like me, and we cant have that happen! Kevin
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
I have two cars, the P car and my Evo 8... both exactly the same greddy boost controller... I have never been in the WRONG boost setting....
All the high end cars running twin turbo set ups... from vipers to mustangs to Vettes.....they use a AEM standalone paired with a EBC... including all the JAP cars liek Supra, Skylines. etc.
When was the last time any of you put ur boxers on the wrong way?
I would bet that the above is more prone to happen then one sitting in HIGH boost instead of LOW....
most guys here spend 10 minutes warming up the car... then another 2 minutes cooling off the car... why then would any of us make a mistake of being in the wrong boost setting?
If you don't respect the motor and use appropriate fuel with boost YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO DRIVE THIS CAR NOR ANY OTHER TURBOCHARGED CAR.
I would not give this car with a EBC to a high school kid that's for sure....
just my opinion guys.... from experience.
markski
PS. Im not saying that this approach is superior to others... just different...
All the high end cars running twin turbo set ups... from vipers to mustangs to Vettes.....they use a AEM standalone paired with a EBC... including all the JAP cars liek Supra, Skylines. etc.
When was the last time any of you put ur boxers on the wrong way?
I would bet that the above is more prone to happen then one sitting in HIGH boost instead of LOW....
most guys here spend 10 minutes warming up the car... then another 2 minutes cooling off the car... why then would any of us make a mistake of being in the wrong boost setting?
If you don't respect the motor and use appropriate fuel with boost YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO DRIVE THIS CAR NOR ANY OTHER TURBOCHARGED CAR.
I would not give this car with a EBC to a high school kid that's for sure....
just my opinion guys.... from experience.
markski
PS. Im not saying that this approach is superior to others... just different...
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
Alex,
I did 6.46 60 to 130 @ .8 bars( boost controller off) but I saw a.9 bar peak.
40 degree temp with not too much traction... 2 shifts....
I still have yet to start cranking up the boost.... but cant get traction in cold temps...
I want to do a 0 to 300 KM and 100 to 300 KM...
I did 6.46 60 to 130 @ .8 bars( boost controller off) but I saw a.9 bar peak.
40 degree temp with not too much traction... 2 shifts....
I still have yet to start cranking up the boost.... but cant get traction in cold temps...
I want to do a 0 to 300 KM and 100 to 300 KM...
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[quote=MARKSKI]I have two cars, the P car and my Evo 8... both exactly the same greddy boost controller... I have never been in the WRONG boost setting....
All the high end cars running twin turbo set ups... from vipers to mustangs to Vettes.....they use a AEM standalone paired with a EBC... including all the JAP cars liek Supra, Skylines. etc.
quote]
Not completly true, we can use a BC that the AEM,motec,autronic and etc controls, not a exernal one as you mean
All the high end cars running twin turbo set ups... from vipers to mustangs to Vettes.....they use a AEM standalone paired with a EBC... including all the JAP cars liek Supra, Skylines. etc.
quote]
Not completly true, we can use a BC that the AEM,motec,autronic and etc controls, not a exernal one as you mean
SMR,
I have seen many 1000 HP conversion cars from Supras to vipers... and for some reason they all if not most of them had a external Boost controller...
my friend Marco who ran mid8s in his supra(2 years ago) and drove it the night clubs with me has one for example... and he is on AEM.
my point was that that is one way of doing it not the ONLY way... IM by far not an expert in this Im only sharing what I have seen...
markski
I have seen many 1000 HP conversion cars from Supras to vipers... and for some reason they all if not most of them had a external Boost controller...
my friend Marco who ran mid8s in his supra(2 years ago) and drove it the night clubs with me has one for example... and he is on AEM.
my point was that that is one way of doing it not the ONLY way... IM by far not an expert in this Im only sharing what I have seen...
markski
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[quote=SMR]
Correct you can, but they rarely work as well as an external BC at high boost levels. At least in the Supra community, no ones relies on the Motec or AEM to control boost when running 7's. For a street car, I'm sure it would work fine for lower boost levels.
But back to the point between relying on either a BC or a Flashloader, I personally see no difference? Both approaches require a manual 5 second mental and physical input from the driver if and when they change fuels. Every car I know that runs different boost levels for different conditions needs some type of manual input from the driver. Like Markski said, if you can't remember to turn the boost down in certain situations, you should be driving a stock car with a warranty
Originally Posted by MARKSKI
I have two cars, the P car and my Evo 8... both exactly the same greddy boost controller... I have never been in the WRONG boost setting....
All the high end cars running twin turbo set ups... from vipers to mustangs to Vettes.....they use a AEM standalone paired with a EBC... including all the JAP cars liek Supra, Skylines. etc.
quote]
Not completly true, we can use a BC that the AEM,motec,autronic and etc controls, not a exernal one as you mean
All the high end cars running twin turbo set ups... from vipers to mustangs to Vettes.....they use a AEM standalone paired with a EBC... including all the JAP cars liek Supra, Skylines. etc.
quote]
Not completly true, we can use a BC that the AEM,motec,autronic and etc controls, not a exernal one as you mean
But back to the point between relying on either a BC or a Flashloader, I personally see no difference? Both approaches require a manual 5 second mental and physical input from the driver if and when they change fuels. Every car I know that runs different boost levels for different conditions needs some type of manual input from the driver. Like Markski said, if you can't remember to turn the boost down in certain situations, you should be driving a stock car with a warranty
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Mark that a great run congrats!! Have you tried it in 4th not shifting? that would be a nice comparison with DMK's machine! It should shave a few off your time. I would love to see 60-130 on Ohio GT2's also...tom
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Originally Posted by topgun
Mark that a great run congrats!! Have you tried it in 4th not shifting? that would be a nice comparison with DMK's machine! It should shave a few off your time. I would love to see 60-130 on Ohio GT2's also...tom
A 2 shift 6.4s 60-130mph is certainly much more relevant than a "no shift" run, and it includes almost a 1 second shift time in the 6.4s. That being said, out of curiosity, it might be fun to know.
Originally Posted by topgun
Mark that a great run congrats!! Have you tried it in 4th not shifting? that would be a nice comparison with DMK's machine! It should shave a few off your time. I would love to see 60-130 on Ohio GT2's also...tom
I did but starting at 40 mph in 4th on gt35rs doesnt do... I tried.
I did it in 2 shifts in substandard temps and with the boost controller OFF...
meaning that it runs on spring alone... and they are .8 bard springs on TAIL 44 mm WGs...
mark
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
Tom,
I did but starting at 40 mph in 4th on gt35rs doesnt do... I tried.
I did it in 2 shifts in substandard temps and with the boost controller OFF...
meaning that it runs on spring alone... and they are .8 bard springs on TAIL 44 mm WGs...
mark
I did but starting at 40 mph in 4th on gt35rs doesnt do... I tried.
I did it in 2 shifts in substandard temps and with the boost controller OFF...
meaning that it runs on spring alone... and they are .8 bard springs on TAIL 44 mm WGs...
mark
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
SMR,
I have seen many 1000 HP conversion cars from Supras to vipers... and for some reason they all if not most of them had a external Boost controller...
my friend Marco who ran mid8s in his supra(2 years ago) and drove it the night clubs with me has one for example... and he is on AEM.
my point was that that is one way of doing it not the ONLY way... IM by far not an expert in this Im only sharing what I have seen...
markski
I have seen many 1000 HP conversion cars from Supras to vipers... and for some reason they all if not most of them had a external Boost controller...
my friend Marco who ran mid8s in his supra(2 years ago) and drove it the night clubs with me has one for example... and he is on AEM.
my point was that that is one way of doing it not the ONLY way... IM by far not an expert in this Im only sharing what I have seen...
markski
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[quote=OhioGT2]
Correct you can, but they rarely work as well as an external BC at high boost levels. At least in the Supra community, no ones relies on the Motec or AEM to control boost when running 7's. For a street car, I'm sure it would work fine for lower boost levels.
But back to the point between relying on either a BC or a Flashloader, I personally see no difference? Both approaches require a manual 5 second mental and physical input from the driver if and when they change fuels. Every car I know that runs different boost levels for different conditions needs some type of manual input from the driver. Like Markski said, if you can't remember to turn the boost down in certain situations, you should be driving a stock car with a warranty
I do this all the time and there is no problem with motec or other BC, same as extrenal BC... Using it in the EMS can give you some nice featers and there is alot more going on then dragracing, when thing should hold toghter for like 7 sec you can have and diffrent approch to things
Originally Posted by SMR
Correct you can, but they rarely work as well as an external BC at high boost levels. At least in the Supra community, no ones relies on the Motec or AEM to control boost when running 7's. For a street car, I'm sure it would work fine for lower boost levels.
But back to the point between relying on either a BC or a Flashloader, I personally see no difference? Both approaches require a manual 5 second mental and physical input from the driver if and when they change fuels. Every car I know that runs different boost levels for different conditions needs some type of manual input from the driver. Like Markski said, if you can't remember to turn the boost down in certain situations, you should be driving a stock car with a warranty
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Originally Posted by Jean
In general terms, I am still not sure what that shiftless run achieves, this is not the way you would drive it on the street, nor the way you would race someone from a rolling 20mph, nor the way magazines test the cars, basically you will never be using your car this way.
A 2 shift 6.4s 60-130mph is certainly much more relevant than a "no shift" run, and it includes almost a 1 second shift time in the 6.4s. That being said, out of curiosity, it might be fun to know.
A 2 shift 6.4s 60-130mph is certainly much more relevant than a "no shift" run, and it includes almost a 1 second shift time in the 6.4s. That being said, out of curiosity, it might be fun to know.