Mezger vs Newer
#78
That is very simply said, ... and a very powerful statement from people that know what they are talking about.
#79
well
if I didn't really understand the new motor I wouldn't try something like that either.
Its only been out less than a year ... I"m sure there is much more to learn about the new motor even by a great team like switzer.
I'm pretty sure no one tried putting a 1100+hp on a stock 997.1 the first year out either. Not to mention that block has been out a LOT longer than that.
Its only been out less than a year ... I"m sure there is much more to learn about the new motor even by a great team like switzer.
I'm pretty sure no one tried putting a 1100+hp on a stock 997.1 the first year out either. Not to mention that block has been out a LOT longer than that.
#83
+1. Well stated!
#84
How far will we go with it (the new engine)?
Well we did have sledge running some big power in 2008, and that was not long after it arrived here. https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ght=997tt+30rs
Like Champion has said and done, 560whp is all she will take, then the tranny is the weak link. Nobody knows what the engine will take yet, heck everyone was in an engine building frenzy with the 996tt and the 997tt years ago when it was believed that you could only take the metzger engine to 600hp or the rods will come out...
550whp with the PDK is pretty fast, not 9 second 1/4 fast but it will suffice for 75% of the people out there.
Well we did have sledge running some big power in 2008, and that was not long after it arrived here. https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ght=997tt+30rs
Like Champion has said and done, 560whp is all she will take, then the tranny is the weak link. Nobody knows what the engine will take yet, heck everyone was in an engine building frenzy with the 996tt and the 997tt years ago when it was believed that you could only take the metzger engine to 600hp or the rods will come out...
550whp with the PDK is pretty fast, not 9 second 1/4 fast but it will suffice for 75% of the people out there.
#85
How far will we go with it (the new engine)?
Well we did have sledge running some big power in 2008, and that was not long after it arrived here. https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ght=997tt+30rs
Like Champion has said and done, 560whp is all she will take, then the tranny is the weak link. Nobody knows what the engine will take yet, heck everyone was in an engine building frenzy with the 996tt and the 997tt years ago when it was believed that you could only take the metzger engine to 600hp or the rods will come out...
550whp with the PDK is pretty fast, not 9 second 1/4 fast but it will suffice for 75% of the people out there.
Well we did have sledge running some big power in 2008, and that was not long after it arrived here. https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ght=997tt+30rs
Like Champion has said and done, 560whp is all she will take, then the tranny is the weak link. Nobody knows what the engine will take yet, heck everyone was in an engine building frenzy with the 996tt and the 997tt years ago when it was believed that you could only take the metzger engine to 600hp or the rods will come out...
550whp with the PDK is pretty fast, not 9 second 1/4 fast but it will suffice for 75% of the people out there.
#86
Thank you ... that was exactly my point.
#88
The guy made it back to Kuwait for 3 days before he had to fly back out on a family issue.
I did manage to speak with him while he was there.
He promised to compile tech data and documentation on what similarities and differences there are between the 2 engines.
He backtracked a bit on his earlier statements but still insists on there being many similarities between the two engines and that the new engine can make significantly more power than it currently does without having to worry about internals, but wouldn't provide a figure (naturally).
I will push him some more on provided the documentation. If he does, I will forward the documents to someone who can make more of them than me (perhaps Bobby).
If he does not, well then...
I did manage to speak with him while he was there.
He promised to compile tech data and documentation on what similarities and differences there are between the 2 engines.
He backtracked a bit on his earlier statements but still insists on there being many similarities between the two engines and that the new engine can make significantly more power than it currently does without having to worry about internals, but wouldn't provide a figure (naturally).
I will push him some more on provided the documentation. If he does, I will forward the documents to someone who can make more of them than me (perhaps Bobby).
If he does not, well then...
#89
guys, racing is a tough comparison cause in pro racing where cost really isn't an issue, porsche uses a LOT of stuff that doesn't appear on my beloved 997.1 modded tt or on ANY road going model, including the car it's homologated off of, the 3.8 gt3: sequential dogbox, suspension, c/f fenders, exhaust, batteries, and i'm guessing radiators too, to name a few. i'm sure the tranny on my tt would blow up in a 24hr race too but i didn't consider that when i bot the car. the RSR is about BALANCE between mechanical grip, aero grip, and power/endurance, very little of which is available to us on the street, and that balance is to win races at the limit. i'm no wetsumper, but pounding the unfort few who bot 997.2 tt's or pdk junkies sounds oddly like aircooled guys saying watercooling would be the end of the 911. face it, road cars are ALL very soft in many ways vs a true race car and will never compare nicely, and if u think your 997.1 tt is a modern gt1, i beg u to go stand next to one and say it again with a straight face!
#90
This is what i did + on 2013 they will release the 998 so 997.2 will be old