2015 V8 Vantage GT
"Unless made effective, this order is not binding and Purchaser(s) may cancel and recover deposit".
The only question is what does "made effective" mean?
Last edited by terminal_ac; Apr 25, 2014 at 02:34 PM.
I guess it varies by state. I signed the refundable form last time (CA)
Not sure that it's that cut and dry. Plus, I may lose my place in the assembly line.
Before, you stated:
"I mentioned that I wanted to cancel, and was informed that I wouold have to wait until someone purchased my car on order before I would be refunded my deposit.
(mind you, Aston hasn't even started building the car yet )"
But you say you didn't have to sign a non-refundable deposit agreement like I did. So are they refusing to give you your money back?
Also, I got the impression later on in this thread that your car is near build completion but you wanted to change the specification to add some other black bits that weren't available for the S at the time you spec'd your car. If so, you could always buy these parts later separately.
"I mentioned that I wanted to cancel, and was informed that I wouold have to wait until someone purchased my car on order before I would be refunded my deposit.
(mind you, Aston hasn't even started building the car yet )"
But you say you didn't have to sign a non-refundable deposit agreement like I did. So are they refusing to give you your money back?
Also, I got the impression later on in this thread that your car is near build completion but you wanted to change the specification to add some other black bits that weren't available for the S at the time you spec'd your car. If so, you could always buy these parts later separately.
There is no point in getting a GT and adding every option to make it a V8VS. Like I said, the ideal aston I would spec out is only a $107k sticker. The whole point of the GT is to offer an option without all the fancy CF (which I honestly don't like bc I think it looks tacky compared to Piano black (still the best/classiest interior). Bang and Oluf is overkill to the extreme, 700watt is just fine. To get a new 2015 with all V8VS mechanical hardware & upgrades with outa ny of the fancy trinkets for $107k sticker is absolutely insane value, and it will depreciate a lot less Han a $130-140k car with excessive options. Options are how manufacturers gouge customers, none of those options translate to real value on the used car market.
Before, you stated:
"I mentioned that I wanted to cancel, and was informed that I wouold have to wait until someone purchased my car on order before I would be refunded my deposit.
(mind you, Aston hasn't even started building the car yet )"
But you say you didn't have to sign a non-refundable deposit agreement like I did. So are they refusing to give you your money back?
Also, I got the impression later on in this thread that your car is near build completion but you wanted to change the specification to add some other black bits that weren't available for the S at the time you spec'd your car. If so, you could always buy these parts later separately.
"I mentioned that I wanted to cancel, and was informed that I wouold have to wait until someone purchased my car on order before I would be refunded my deposit.
(mind you, Aston hasn't even started building the car yet )"
But you say you didn't have to sign a non-refundable deposit agreement like I did. So are they refusing to give you your money back?
Also, I got the impression later on in this thread that your car is near build completion but you wanted to change the specification to add some other black bits that weren't available for the S at the time you spec'd your car. If so, you could always buy these parts later separately.
Without the graphics package, the GT looks precisely the way I wanted my car to look on delivery. I was told, I could not get this stuff absent using the Q program, which is a rip-off and delays delivery of the car.
In truth, I simply want my car spec'd the way I always wanted it, i.e., with minimal chrome parts!!!
And yes, I could buy the bits I want via a third party but why shouldn't Aston place these parts on my car, especially in view of the fact that they are standard on the same car that now sells for south of 100k!!
Last edited by terminal_ac; Apr 25, 2014 at 05:17 PM.
There is no point in getting a GT and adding every option to make it a V8VS. Like I said, the ideal aston I would spec out is only a $107k sticker. The whole point of the GT is to offer an option without all the fancy CF (which I honestly don't like bc I think it looks tacky compared to Piano black (still the best/classiest interior). Bang and Oluf is overkill to the extreme, 700watt is just fine. To get a new 2015 with all V8VS mechanical hardware & upgrades with outa ny of the fancy trinkets for $107k sticker is absolutely insane value, and it will depreciate a lot less Han a $130-140k car with excessive options. Options are how manufacturers gouge customers, none of those options translate to real value on the used car market.
No specific refusal to refund, but mind you I haven't pushed that issue. My main point if friction is all the "black" parts that have now turned up in the GT for less!!
Without the graphics package, the GT looks precisely the way I wanted my car to look on delivery. I was told, I could not get this stuff absent using the Q program, which is a rip-off and delays delivery of the car.
In truth, I simply want my car spec'd the way I always wanted it, i.e., with minimal chrome parts!!!
And yes, I could buy the bits I want via a third party but why shouldn't Aston place these parts on my car, especially in view of the fact that they are standard on the same car that now sells for south of 100k!!
Without the graphics package, the GT looks precisely the way I wanted my car to look on delivery. I was told, I could not get this stuff absent using the Q program, which is a rip-off and delays delivery of the car.
In truth, I simply want my car spec'd the way I always wanted it, i.e., with minimal chrome parts!!!
And yes, I could buy the bits I want via a third party but why shouldn't Aston place these parts on my car, especially in view of the fact that they are standard on the same car that now sells for south of 100k!!
I had my deposit in for 6 months before I canceled. It was painful, but you want the right car!
My Options
Coupe 6 Speed manual
Exterior Carbon Pack
Yellow Brake Calipers
Black Vaned Front Grill
Black Meshes (Standard on GT)
Black Textured Tail Pipe (Standard on GT)
Previous AM Color
19 Inch 10 Spoke Graphite Diamond Turned Wheels
Carbon Interior Pack
Personalized Sill Plaques
Steering Wheel Alacantara (Standard on GT)
Premium Stereo
Alarm Upgrade
Heated Front Seats
Memory Seats
Umbrella
Leather ECU Pouch
Coupe 6 Speed manual
Exterior Carbon Pack
Yellow Brake Calipers
Black Vaned Front Grill
Black Meshes (Standard on GT)
Black Textured Tail Pipe (Standard on GT)
Previous AM Color
19 Inch 10 Spoke Graphite Diamond Turned Wheels
Carbon Interior Pack
Personalized Sill Plaques
Steering Wheel Alacantara (Standard on GT)
Premium Stereo
Alarm Upgrade
Heated Front Seats
Memory Seats
Umbrella
Leather ECU Pouch
V8V GT has a base of $99,900, plus the options you have listed and the technology pack which is standard on the V8VS. I make the options list $30,175.50 as below. So that is an MSRP of $130,075.50. I don't know exactly what price you negotiated on your 'S' but I know that between AM putting trunk money in most of those cars, and the dealers having more margin to work with on the non-GT cars, that $15,000 off MSRP would be very good deal but achievable.
So, without knowing the exact number involved in the car you have ordered, I can't see how there would be more than $2-3000 difference between the price of a GT specced up to to what you have on your V8VS. Again, I could be wrong, and feel free to correct me. For all I know you paid MSRP in which case, yeah there is a big difference.
If I'm in the right ballpark for the price you negotiated on your 'S' then there's two other things I would consider. First off, okay one might say - MSRP is still $15-18K different, so if you get the same discount then there is still a big differential. But one thing I do happen to know is that the same type of discounts that were available on the non-GT cars are categorically not available on the GT's. What really happened here is that AM took the $10K or so they were putting in the trunk, slashed the dealer's margins on the car by a few thousand, and now the price on the sticker is pretty much the price you're paying. Before the GT, big discounts were available but just not 'official'. Now, the price is the price and the discounts are incorporated so you don't have to jump through hoops and haggle just to get it done. So assuming that $15-20K difference in MSRP = $15-20K difference in actual purchase price is not a correct assumption.
The second thing I would consider here is, you're getting a paint colour, and a unique interior colour that are not available on the GT (or at least, if they are available, they will carry additional cost over and above the 'option list' price if they are 'Q' options or if Aston caves and makes them with additional cost. "Previous AM Paint Colour" is a $3785 option on a non-GT car, not sure about the Interior, but I don't think it is a stretch to say it would be another $10K to spec a V8VGT with the paint and interior you have got. Now that car is a $140K sticker.
So my take on this is, I think if you cancelled your order and ordered a V8VGT as you specced above, left it with standard V8VGT paint & interior, you might manage to save $2-3000, if my assumptions about your negotiated price on the 'S' are correct. For my money, $2-3000 more for a car which has a non-GT, unique interior & paint colour are WAY more desirable and that car is going to have far better residuals than the 'off-the shelf' GT paint & interior.
I hope you don't take this the wrong way. I don't have a horse in this race either way, I don't stand to lose or gain anything regardless of what happens. I understand that the way the GT has been presented is a little opaque and it seems on the surface like a far better deal. I think it is a better deal if you're buying a base car with no options, but honestly, for what you are getting in your 'S', I think that is a very good deal, and a far better prospect for resale value than a GT will be.
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Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
Velocity Automotive Performance Limited
206 Maple Avenue
Oliver, BC
Canada V2A 4W6
Office: (1)250-485-5126
www.velocityap.com
Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
Velocity Automotive Performance Limited
206 Maple Avenue
Oliver, BC
Canada V2A 4W6
Office: (1)250-485-5126
www.velocityap.com
Last edited by Stuart@VelocityAP; Apr 25, 2014 at 10:28 PM.
Stuart, thank you for your attempted price analysis.
The reason why your analysis fails is simply because I ordered a custom built car. My experience around the nation was that when ordering a custom built car the dealers would pretty much sell the car at MSRP. Hence, yes there is a big difference. Notwithstanding, I'm willing to look past all of that if they, i.e., Aston Martin, will incorporate a couple of the parts that are now standard on the GT into my build.
The reason why your analysis fails is simply because I ordered a custom built car. My experience around the nation was that when ordering a custom built car the dealers would pretty much sell the car at MSRP. Hence, yes there is a big difference. Notwithstanding, I'm willing to look past all of that if they, i.e., Aston Martin, will incorporate a couple of the parts that are now standard on the GT into my build.






