yes but you dont need a loud high pitched HKS blow off valve to scream, "pull me over"

 

Right now, the engine and drivetrain are planned. For daily use were going to put the car in the 700-800rwhp region. I will most likely be running radial tires all the time. For the drag setup, ill be looking into custom wheels with slicks, although then ill be looking for money to fix the broken pieces. So as far as now, it will be fun trying to get traction in 4th gear.

Also a traction control system might be in the works as well.

 

All that power on an M3 is somewhat pointless because the widest wheel you can fit on one is what 9.5, I could barely fit a 10 inch wide on an E39 M5 so I'm assumming it's 9.5. At that width, unless you have slicks you'll still get beat for traction reasons by all the other high hp cars:

I.E.

Vipers that go PSHHHHHH
Corvettes that go PSHHHHH (raises hand)
Porsches that go PSHHHH (raises other hand)
Supras that go PSHHH
Mustang that go PSHHHH
etc etc etc.

I am not hating on this package because if I had an M3 instead of my former M5 I would have certainly gotten one, but you wont scare folks in the same class of PHSSSSSedness

Nice car though and make some vids of it at the track as well. Man are you gonna grenade that rear end with some traction.

 

Geez dont get you're panties in a bunch. Nobody made any challanges, why is the massive defense mechanism employed?

Theres only 1 test version on the car, not in TX either. I think i know of a SC'd high 6xxrwhp M3 (on pump gas) in TX that might run.

A stock internal M3 can run with a stock internal 996, the M3 just needs more time for HP to be found. The 996 took awhile even with being turbo'd from the factory. Remember originally this is a 333hp NA vs 415hp TT race.

And also learn there is always someone faster out there. I would take your race offer with whatever gas or internals you want soon.

 

Ive seen 315 series tires on M3's with no fender modification (other then the easy fender roll). All these high powered car's have some sort of traction problem, i really dont see why an M3 is being picked on as far as traction goes.

Depending on what kits and what HP these cars make, then we can judge what beats what. If your comparing a stock 3.2 with 600rwhp vs a fully built 1000rwhp viper then so be it.

 

E46 M3's can fit 11" rear wheels. Your E39 should have had no problem with a 10" rear. Probably improper offsets.

Of course, traction has a lot more to do with suspension/chassis setup and tire compound than just the width of the wheel you're running.

I think most people would agree the 996tt is still in another league, compared to an M3, even a turbo M3. On the other hand, a turbo M3 should cost a hell of a lot less than a comparable rwhp 996tt, plus has a usable back seat & trunk. Different strokes for different folks.......

 

OK,

I am not beeing definsive or offering my challenge with animosity. I also think you car might be competative w/ mine. I am primarily curious, that is all. I like the M3 a lot, I just don't believe it is comparable as an all out performance platform. The OP suggested that I should be fearful and I am not.

Remember, my car is only about 2/3rds of what it can be. Nonetheless, I still think I can win and would like to race.

 

You guys dont take me wrong but this is a TT forum not a M3.
With all due respect, this thread should be moved....
just my opinion...
markski

 

I guess it all depends on offset, i ran BBS 10" wide wheels with 285's no problem with SEVERAL tires, had no traction at all unless highway pull in third, but from a 1st gear, 2nd gear or dead stop standstill rowing through the gear, no traction until mid 3rd or so.

No way 11" wide wheel can fit without some major modification. Even my iforged 10.5 with 295 michelin PS2's were resting on the inner body of the M3 fender well, it sucked

 

M3 has always been known for its all out performance platform. It has the proper chassis to do anything. I dont see what it lacks as far as performance compared to the 996TT. Lets try not to be biased here.

Where do you get the 2/3rds figure from, any car can be modded to unlimited lengths if wanted (or money is unlimited). Any M3 can be made faster then any 996tt and so forth, its all about money really.

 

Completely agree, stock for stock the m3 will beat 996 carrerra's and thats more of the fair race since they are both NA. its not fair to put m3 and he 996tt in the same league stock for stock. NA vs twin turbos

 

You run lower boost at elevation? I'm skeptical about your knowledge.

Tell you what. Let's meet up at LACR. I have an intake, a flash and exhaust (including cats).

 

2/3 of the full Protomotive package on stock internals.

"Completely agree, stock for stock the m3 will beat 996 carrerra's and thats more of the fair race since they are both NA. its not fair to put m3 and he 996tt in the same league stock for stock. NA vs twin turbos"

I also concur: It is ludicrous to believe that an N/A platform can compete w/ one built for FI.

PS I was not the one neg repping

 

Im trying to hold myself from laughing at the moment. Maybe you should read up and try to educate yourself before telling others they are ignorant.

First off. I had a supercharger which at elevation (depending how high) will lose boost. Turbo's do not b/c they use wastegates to measure psi, superchargers use pulleys...

Ive already ran at LACR 11.9 @ 123, unfortunately a time your car cant even come close to replicating. So please be my guest and use the cold weather to your advantage also , go to LACR and post your times.

 

I didnt know that about the M3 but none of my wheels have had improper offsets and I would think some form of modification would be neccesary, but it's neither here nor there as as I'm concerned.


As far as having a back seat, blah blah blah, no one buys a TT to haul stuff around in, at least not that I've heard of. Why not get a turbo mustang? Turbo Integra or Civic 4 door, Hell buy a turbo Grand national and run 8's and have comfy seating they all have useable back seats. Starting to sound like ricer arugments to me. Cheaper this cheaper that. The majority of folks on this board dont buy a TT for cost effectiveness or having to be the fastest car on the street (except for a few exceptions I.E Markski, VR) but they wanted a Porsche and could afford it, not an M3.

Stock for stock TT > M3
Mod for Mod TT > M3
$ for $ M3 > TT

when you add methanol and all that crap you put your car even one step closer to blowing up if you run out or a wire gets disconnected.

The M3 is one formidable car and has earned the respect it gets but comparing it to an already more expensive but better platform based on money inveseted is a waist IMO.