I'm not understanding your point.

The majority of GT-Rs (like any car) won't see speeds over 130mph. I track my car (wife gives it double duty), and then drive it to work the next day after dropping off the kids at school.

Not taking anything away from the 911t, but the GT-R fits me.

 

glad it fits you. But personally I don't think I'ld like the harsher ride and I know I wouldn't be happy with the rapid tire wear. That's where Porsche went with the turbo. Also I like the manual transmission. Everthing is a compromise, Porsche compromised with a ride more for day to day, Nissan went with a track set up. That's where it gets it's edge on the track. When it runs into cars that are also set up for the track it loses that edge. I don't know how much room the gtr has in the back. But the complaints I've heard at nagtroc, the harsh ride, heat from the transmission in the passenger area and trunk and the agressive shifts, I'ld be surprised if your wife spent time in the Porsche that she wouldn't enjoy it more.

 

She loves the 911's. If money weren't an issue - she'd have one. But she's a little shy (intimidated) at the track, and feels quite comfortable in the GT-R on track. I can fit a 12' canopy in my trunk for track/auto-x, along with a couple of kids in car seats.

If given the choice between the two - she prefers the 911 - she loves the new PDK. But when discussing an actual purchase, she chooses the GT-R.

The ride is slightly harsh (even in Comfort mode), but on track, everything makes sense. Tires are a ***** - so are the brakes for stopping a 400lbs pig.

If the PDK shows up in the Turbo, and can be bought for $80k (or less), it's a done deal for her.

 

This is very funny. You are basing all your comments on things you have heard!!!. Have you even been in a GTR? Every person I let drive my car cant believe how smooth it is and how it is nothing like all the comments on the web. It is very civil when putt putting around and really smooth. So much so I would compare its comfort ride to the lexus I am driving. Same goes for the trans. It does not shift like rocks when you are just rolling around. It also is smooth until you open it up. Then the car changes to GODzilla. It is not a race car 100% of the time nor does it behave like one until it is pressed to.

If you are driving a 996tt then the ride would not be any worse than your car. The only benefit I see is your manual trans(for some people) and maybe weight. The GTRs ride is not harsh at all. And even tho the GTR has 4 seats which has more room than the Porsche your driving not many people would spend time in either of those rear seats. Come on be real. Your car is no doubt a winner but to diss a GTR based on what you have heard versus what you really have experienced is biased. Thats like me saying the engine in the lambo is laggy knowing full well I have not experienced it for myself. Just like someone in here said Let the car speak for itself...you are not letting it do that. You are speaking from the keyboard. Until you experience it for yourself dont pass judgement.

Just a side note. I let my mechanic drive my car yesterday after he installed the mid pipe. He is a very good driver with alot of experience in alot of cars. He recently did the One Lap in a subaru STI(it was the white wide body from AMS). They did good but retired because of cooling issues in daytona. After driving it he was in total shock and amazement. A grin from ear to ear. After hearing all this crap on the internet he couldnt believe how good the GTR really was and went on to tell me that even in their modded purpose built STI it was nothing compared to the GTR and understood why it won this year. He was so impressed that he wants to do it next year in a GTR maybe.

 

Didnt Nissan's test GTR keep up with the ZR1 in the long Nurburgring straight?

Why can the GTR keep up with the ZR1 on that test? and how can a stock GTR cant keep up with the Porsche Turbo on the same straight (6:45)? Another clue of Nissan using a ringer for their fast lap? I think so!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK3dn4Tlpto

 

Kickhard No I haven't had a chance to drive a gtr. I've tried to keep an open mind and read what the people on nagtrog, who claim to own the car have to say. It has been discussed over there about the suspension and tire wear, maybe a lot of people over there only claim to own the car. the other popular complaint is the noisey brakes. It's not anything bad about the car it's just the extent they went to make it perform it's best on the track.

 

airflite1 I have heard of those comments about the brakes too. For myself I havent had those issues with my brakes and they seem to be noise free.

As far as tire wear is concerned I am not really sure what your talking about. What tire wear did you get on your stock tires for your car 996tt? I think I have seen people getting 15k or more on the GTR with some tracking. To me that really is not bad tire wear for a car that see's the track and daily driving. You really can never expect the stock tires to last well because of the performance they give. But I am not seeing anything excessive.

Again this is a sports car (though some say it is satan) and we should expect tire wear, a stiffer suspension than a cadillac, and noises that arent normal on a car of this type of mechanics. All in all its no different that any other car of its caliber.


Thanks for keeping an open mind unlike others

 

No, it's a common fallacy. The difference is something like 100 yards by the bridge. That's pretty much all that much extra power buys you, especially when you start losing a few mph on the 4-5th and 5-6th gear change due to a standard manual.

From comparisons you'll also note that no car is quicker than the GTR from the bridge on that straight to the finish line (unless you're talking about Radicals). The ZR1 is slower over that section. The ACR is slower over that section. The Zonda F CS is slower over that section. Take a look at the vids and time it yourself. There's something about the GTR that you just don't appreciate.

GTR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBZ5i15yVU8

ZR1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ikj90_Un0o

ACR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNLI-Xuiy6s

Zonda F CS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APbrjvadVA0

Explain that. All these cars are faster than the GTR in a straight line yet it beats them all over this section, which is mainly about braking and cornering. There's only one logical conclusion but you will find a way of not coming to it.

 

Many independent tests rate the ACR ZR1 et al as having far better cornering. All those proper supercars also had far better braking distance than the GTR. The GTR is a heavier car with less sophisticated brakes which according to Driver Republic were badly worn after just one lap.

The only reason the GTR gained time in that section was because it wasnt your stock showroom variety, what you are seeing my friend is a Nissan prepped ringer !!!!

 

Of course. So given that power is mostly irrelevant in that section, what's your explanation oh great tin-foil-hatted one?

 

I wonder what could've been changed in the GT-R to make it corner better?

monaroCountry - You've got to be one of the biggest magracers I've ever heard of.

... Looking at other people drive other cars on other tracks, with no first hand knowledge, but argue it as if you know about all of the variables about every situation.

I think Nissan should just pack it up and take the one car that is hitting it's market numbers, and go home. The resale value hasn't plummeted, the 1/4 miles are stabilized around 11.5secs, and the reliability has proven to be too reliable. This car sucks. Because of 11 secs (obviously less) on a track that less than .1% of the GT-R owners (and Porsche owners) will ever see.

 

Really, in all types of forums I've read, I've never come across someone as biased against anything like monaroCountry is toward the GTR. It is really amazing and kinda pathetic.

 

Now that we have come to the conclusion that everyone knows, lets move on with life. The GTR is good, its damn good....but its not CGT good.

 

True. Imagine if their gearing was as aggressive as the GT-Rs. I think that is frequently overlooked. It is VERY aggressively geared.

 

Gears shift every 30mph.

*edit: And oddly enough, in auto-mode, it shifts into 6th gear at 30mph.