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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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Spoken like a true badge *****. Well said.


You have to admit that what I said was the truth. Nissan simply cant sell a car at Porsche prices.
 
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Yep, they aren't. They're selling a car that performs at 911 GT3 / GT2 levels for 911 Carerra money.
 
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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You have to admit that what I said was the truth. Nissan simply cant sell a car at Porsche prices.
I can't disagree with you...

We'll see... I see the markets changing in the future.
 
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Doom you mean the same old fashioned RWD platform all of the worlds greatest race cars have used and still do?

Please stop commenting in this thread you are cementing your rep as the Dooms Day of common sense....
 
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Just because it's been used for a long time, does not mean it's the best method for every car.
 
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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[quote][Please stop commenting in this thread you are cementing your rep as the Dooms Day of common sense..../QUOTE]

Please, explain to me why what I've posted is so illogical?

Oh my God, you are so witty! You forgot when the R32 GTR came in with it's all wheel drive system, it won every JGTC race it was in and eventually was banned in Australia, I believe? Yes, I must be an idiot. You are so smart. Gosh, can I bask in your knowledge? I'm just an ignorant fool spouting facts.

You're cementing the fact that you, monaroCountry and heavychevy are only on here to do one thing. Bash GTR's no matter what facts are presented. If you can't even conceed that the GTR is an amazing car in this day and age, there's no hope for you as a car enthusiast. That's what I am.

I don't think the GTR is the end all be all of performance cars, but come on, this bash session on all things GTR is getting pathetic and rediculous.

I don't have a problem when a perfomance car is faster or better than mine. Big deal. Porsche owners, apparently, cannot deal with it. Sad...
 

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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Not sure if you can generalise that Porsche owners cannot deal with the GTR. I think it's only a select few members on this forum namely HeavyChevy and Moranocountry. And im sure they don't even own a Porsche!How ironic eh? Hahaha..
Charlie, I'd agree with your point. Well said. I don't like people generalizing me (was called part of the fast and furious crowd because I own a Supra Turbo and Mazdaspeed 3) in the Porsche forum, so I should rise above it and not generalize them either.

They don't own one? For the love of God. And all this time I thought they did.
 
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Charlie, I'd agree with your point. Well said. I don't like people generalizing me (was called part of the fast and furious crowd because I own a Supra Turbo and Mazdaspeed 3) in the Porsche forum, so I should rise above it and not generalize them either.

They don't own one? For the love of God. And all this time I thought they did.
The two of you clearly don't know Dez. I guess that's what happens when you're here for 1 month.

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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Maybe we don't. But the rediculous bias is pretty obvious, and I don't need to be here that long to figure that out.

I already said that I don't think the GTR is god. But when all those two do is bash it, like it's their only goal in life, it gets rediculous.
 
Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Yeah, but weren't that fast compared to what? Stock GTR's to modified Z06's, Vipers, what?? Also, then how come ever test I've seen it in, it spanks most of the competition in it's class?

No bro. Most of the guys have very light mods like Hawk DTC pads and some R-compound rubber. My car is definately one of the more modified ones out there that is not a dedicated race car. I have a base Z51 LS2. I'm not trying to spread hate here, but if you take a z06 or an LS3 Z51 on hoosiers, you are going to be just as fast as a GT-R on Hoosiers.
Both of our cars come with run flat tire, but GM went with the Good year F1 that has a 300 treadwear rating.

I dropped 3 full seconds by switching from the F1s to Michellin PS2s (not the CUPs). I dropped another couple of seconds by running the Toyo R888s (treadwear rating 100).
 
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No bro. Most of the guys have very light mods like Hawk DTC pads and some R-compound rubber. My car is definately one of the more modified ones out there that is not a dedicated race car. I have a base Z51 LS2. I'm not trying to spread hate here, but if you take a z06 or an LS3 Z51 on hoosiers, you are going to be just as fast as a GT-R on Hoosiers.
Both of our cars come with run flat tire, but GM went with the Good year F1 that has a 300 treadwear rating.

I dropped 3 full seconds by switching from the F1s to Michellin PS2s (not the CUPs). I dropped another couple of seconds by running the Toyo R888s (treadwear rating 100).
That's good to hear, and I totally believe you. Like I said, I don't think the GTR is the car for all time or anything either.

I appreciate your lack of attitude in presenting facts that you know to be true, and I believe it. At least you're not just sitting here telling us that "Nissan are a bunch of liars", bla bla. I appreciate hearing from someone with facts from experience. I'm a fan of all types of cars.
 
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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Like Nissan said, they don't defy physics, they just apply them better.

If Nissan actually did cheat (which no one can really prove at this point, it's all hearsay) then I will be the first to denounce them.
I hope you really don't believe Nissan's car was making stock power levels when Pobst couldn't come within 5 seconds of an ACR with a STOCK GT-R on a 2.23 mile course.....

Can anyone explain that? Why don't we stick to a known track, with known stock vehicles and a known driver (Randy Pobst). The GT-R doesn't look so invincible now, does it?

An R8 beat it, a GT3 can beat it.

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Spoken like a true badge *****. Well said.
Unfortunately true if the Spec-V is sold here at the hinted prices.

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and Nissan is certainly smarter than you or a company that continues to use a REAR engine setup for their high performance cars. Great weight distribution.
Fantastic weight distribution as every other manufacturer in the world that has tried has been handed losses in ALMS, Speed GT, SCCA, Rolex GT, etc. Rear engine is not necessarily a handicap.
 
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 04:54 AM
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[quote=Doom4420;2409129]
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Please, explain to me why what I've posted is so illogical?

Oh my God, you are so witty! You forgot when the R32 GTR came in with it's all wheel drive system, it won every JGTC race it was in and eventually was banned in Australia, I believe? Yes, I must be an idiot. You are so smart. Gosh, can I bask in your knowledge? I'm just an ignorant fool spouting facts.
JGTC is that it? that and the Australian racing version is very localized. The race that Ferrari, Porsche et al race in is allot more competitive.


Doom you mean the same old fashioned RWD platform all of the worlds greatest race cars have used and still do?

Please stop commenting in this thread you are cementing your rep as the Dooms Day of common sense....
Man these Nissan fans are so full of themselves.


Yep, they aren't. They're selling a car that performs at 911 GT3 / GT2 levels for 911 Carerra money.
To the non automotive types, that GTR is as desirable as a Maxima whereas a Porsche is desirable to most everyone.
 
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by monaroCountry
To the non automotive types, that GTR is as desirable as a Maxima whereas a Porsche is desirable to most everyone.
I'm engaged in discussions daily with numerous people about what kind of car it is, and what is it called, how much I like it, where I got it, etc...

Everyday, everywhere I go.

Just yesterday, I was taking my sons to an awards banquet, and a guy in a motorcycle stopped to take pics with his phone, another guy turned around just to follow us to the restaurant just to say,'nice car', and I'm constantly getting positive comments from people who either know, or don't know what the hell it is. We get questions at almost every stop light, even just sitting in traffic, people will stop short on traffic lights just to pull up next to us and give a thumbs up or something.

And I've had the car for over 9 months, and the reactions are still the same.

I'm curious as to what you're basing that comment on.
 
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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Man these Nissan fans are so full of themselves.
Man monarocountry, you just don't understand. I said, I'm a fan of ALL types of cars, get that yet? No, let me say it again. I'm a fan of ALL types of cars.

The bias and bull that you are spewing stinks though. Smells jealousy. Like Jaspergtr's experience. It is anything but a Maxima. If we're doing comparisons then, isn't a 911 just a glorified VW Beetle?
 


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