I think an elephant can fart-out more than 25-26lpbs of air per minute. Damn those lil' K16 are small. Sctot did run 11.6 with them tho!

Thats what I was thinking! bad gas+wrong boost button toast!!!

Unlike the chassis dynos that know when a modded TT is strapped to it and read high, apparently no one told the dragstrip.... Strangely enough they read fine for a stock TT... Damn those things are smart...lol

>>>>>> All good questions The ecu continually changes the parameters as long as it can see what's going on... and yes, we're able to map according to different levels of boost/load. At the .8 bar line, we're tuned for pump fuel, same up to around 1.0 bar, then at the 1.2 bar line, we've calibrated on VP103, and can change the calibration as many times as we want throughout the mapping as long as we have enough resolution. There's resolution down to around 40rpm's and a % or so load which would be to around .01 bar. There are many different tables to work with as well if you need to hit a sweet spot [/quote]

I see, so there for a car with large turbo's with race gas will be running on a pump gas file until it reaches the the 1.2 mark! WOW I feel sorry for the guy's with lag .

Isnt it still incredibly responsive and powerful with the pump gas file?

I have two cars, the P car and my Evo 8... both exactly the same greddy boost controller... I have never been in the WRONG boost setting....
All the high end cars running twin turbo set ups... from vipers to mustangs to Vettes.....they use a AEM standalone paired with a EBC... including all the JAP cars liek Supra, Skylines. etc.
When was the last time any of you put ur boxers on the wrong way?
I would bet that the above is more prone to happen then one sitting in HIGH boost instead of LOW....
most guys here spend 10 minutes warming up the car... then another 2 minutes cooling off the car... why then would any of us make a mistake of being in the wrong boost setting?
If you don't respect the motor and use appropriate fuel with boost YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO DRIVE THIS CAR NOR ANY OTHER TURBOCHARGED CAR.
I would not give this car with a EBC to a high school kid that's for sure....
just my opinion guys.... from experience.
markski

PS. Im not saying that this approach is superior to others... just different...

My 993TT had UMW turbos and Protomotive Programming (those were the
days...). Boost controller was in the glove box. How often did I change the
setting? Almost never. I drove to the gas station, pulled up to 100 octane
gas pumps, gave the guy a C-note and pushed the button. How hard is that?

MK

I see, so there for a car with large turbo's with race gas will be running on a pump gas file until it reaches the the 1.2 mark! WOW I feel sorry for the guy's with lag .[/quote]

Lag is not your friend that's for sure My car is pretty tame by some of today's standards but I get full boost right around the 3850-4K mark and that already feels "laggy" to me, then I see some of Marksi's and other big dogs etc.. I remember the days when I had Kevin's ZC turbos or when my car was a GT700 I'd get full boost around the 3.5K mark and didn't worry about lag. Not saying my car is better just different (heh- just to use Marksi's age-old saying).

And Marksi, you should know that just like no EVO cars have boost controllers, none of us wear boxers backwards. We stick to underoos

Not going to be good for 60-130 runs that's for sure! Bigger isn't always better... well on the dyno it might be

Anyways, it's late, I've lost my underoos and can't find the trap door to my boxsters.

Once again, congrats Jamie and normally I'd say be careful but with the Supras you have you can obviously more than handle it When you're out here next time drop by buddy.

Alex,
I'm confused on some of the stuff as well... Im by far not any more knowledgable then anyone else here...
The point is.. be prudent and look out for the car like you would for anything else... and I think most of us do a decent job.
I wish we had an electronic way of doing this stuff... meaning the ECU doing the work.. I think its around the corner though... Or its already being done.
I kind of got used to this stuff so Im OK with it...
..as far as LAG... well its a relative word... coming out of a ZC stage 5 liek you Alex.. everything will be laggy LOL
I simply stay in a higher gear if I have too... and I have that much more RPMS on top to make up for it...
However, I hope we get to meet one day casue my car really seems different... you almost dont feel the lag... I dont know how to explain it...
cams, heads, a combination of both?.. I dont know... but KPG drove my car and he was pleasantly surprised...
best,
Mark

Good point Sharky, When are we going to see some numbers on the BIG DOGS!! Seeing how this GT2 is coming on so strong early,it should be an animal up to 160, the cars with the big ***** better look out!

Mark, for the HP nuts, we all agree that it would be great to have a stand alone fuel management system such as the AEM on Supras for example. The cold hard facts are that our Bosch Motronic 7.8 ECUs are way more complex than any Japanese ECU has ever been, which means in the US there are like a couple of people that physically write code and tuning. They hold the keys to the kingdom and they all have various philosophies on making power. It'd be great to ride in the car sometime or see some 60-130mph runs since that will really show the lag/power band nicely. In fact, I'm suprised you haven't yet posted some- screw the 1/4 mile crapola The ZC stage V (I think I had stage IV?) combined with the GIAC GT640 tuning was actually a 10 second car but we didn't know/realize it at the time. Although I still remember my GT700 stuff fondly which spools up like an SOB. My turbos now, like Craigs are larger, but obviously induce more lag but we're working on that

Did you ever get to inspect closely an elephant's rear compressor size? Might be more like a BB GT40R

LOL now that is raising the bar even further on my toilet humor! I saw this documentary once on the London Zoo and what the Zoo Keepers had to work with in the Elephant pen. I saw more than I ever wanted to!

Alex,
I did 6.46 60 to 130 @ .8 bars( boost controller off) but I saw a.9 bar peak.
40 degree temp with not too much traction... 2 shifts....
I still have yet to start cranking up the boost.... but cant get traction in cold temps...
I want to do a 0 to 300 KM and 100 to 300 KM...